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TEXT 12
na tv evaham jatu nasam
na tvam neme janadhipah
na caiva na bhavisyamah
sarve vayam atah param
SYNONYMS
 na--never; tu--but; eva--certainly; aham--I; jatu--become; na--never; asam--existed; na--it is not so; tvam--yourself; na--not; ime--all these; jana-adhipah--kings; na--never; ca--also; eva--certainly; na--not like that; bhavisyamah--shall exist; sarve--all of us; vayam--we; atah param--hereafter.
na--never; tu--but; eva--certainly; aham--I; jatu--become; na--never; asam--existed; na--it is not so; tvam--yourself; na--not; ime--all these; jana-adhipah--kings; na--never; ca--also; eva--certainly; na--not like that; bhavisyamah--shall exist; sarve--all of us; vayam--we; atah param--hereafter.
TRANSLATION
 Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
PURPORT
 In the Vedas, in the Katha Upanisad as well as in the Svetasvatara Upanisad,
 it is said that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the maintainer of
 innumerable living entities, in terms of their different situations 
according to individual work and reaction of work. That Supreme 
Personality of Godhead is also, by His plenary portions, alive in the 
heart of every living entity. Only saintly persons who can see, within 
and without, the same Supreme Lord, can actually attain to perfect and 
eternal peace.
In the Vedas, in the Katha Upanisad as well as in the Svetasvatara Upanisad,
 it is said that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the maintainer of
 innumerable living entities, in terms of their different situations 
according to individual work and reaction of work. That Supreme 
Personality of Godhead is also, by His plenary portions, alive in the 
heart of every living entity. Only saintly persons who can see, within 
and without, the same Supreme Lord, can actually attain to perfect and 
eternal peace. 
nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam
eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman
tam atma-stham ye 'nupasyanti dhiras
tesam santih sasvati netaresam
(Katha 2.2.13)
 The
 same Vedic truth given to Arjuna is given to all persons in the world 
who pose themselves as very learned but factually have but a poor fund 
of knowledge. The Lord says clearly that He Himself, Arjuna, and all the
 kings who are assembled on the battlefield, are eternally individual 
beings and that the Lord is eternally the maintainer of the individual 
living entities both in their conditioned as well as in their liberated 
situations. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the supreme individual
 person, and Arjuna, the Lord's eternal associate, and all the kings 
assembled there are individual, eternal persons. It is not that they did
 not exist as individuals in the past, and it is not that they will not 
remain eternal persons. Their individuality existed in the past, and 
their individuality will continue in the future without interruption. 
Therefore, there is no cause for lamentation for anyone.
The
 same Vedic truth given to Arjuna is given to all persons in the world 
who pose themselves as very learned but factually have but a poor fund 
of knowledge. The Lord says clearly that He Himself, Arjuna, and all the
 kings who are assembled on the battlefield, are eternally individual 
beings and that the Lord is eternally the maintainer of the individual 
living entities both in their conditioned as well as in their liberated 
situations. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the supreme individual
 person, and Arjuna, the Lord's eternal associate, and all the kings 
assembled there are individual, eternal persons. It is not that they did
 not exist as individuals in the past, and it is not that they will not 
remain eternal persons. Their individuality existed in the past, and 
their individuality will continue in the future without interruption. 
Therefore, there is no cause for lamentation for anyone.
 The Mayavadi theory that after liberation the individual soul, separated by the covering of maya
 or illusion, will merge into the impersonal Brahman and lose its 
individual existence is not supported herein by Lord Krsna, the supreme 
authority. Nor is the theory that we only think of individuality in the 
conditioned state supported herein. Krsna clearly says herein that in 
the future also the individuality of the Lord and others, as it is 
confirmed in the Upanisads, will continue eternally. This 
statement of Krsna is authoritative because Krsna cannot be subject to 
illusion. If individuality is not a fact, then Krsna would not have 
stressed it so much--even for the future. The Mayavadi may argue that 
the individuality spoken of by Krsna is not spiritual, but material. 
Even accepting the argument that the individuality is material, then how
 can one distinguish Krsna's individuality? Krsna affirms His 
individuality in the past and confirms His individuality in the future 
also. He has confirmed His individuality in many ways, and impersonal 
Brahman has been declared to be subordinate to Him. Krsna has maintained
 spiritual individuality all along; if He is accepted as an ordinary 
conditioned soul in individual consciousness, then His Bhagavad-gita
 has no value as authoritative scripture. A common man with all the four
 defects of human frailty is unable to teach that which is worth 
hearing. The Gita is above such literature. No mundane book compares with the Bhagavad-gita. When one accepts Krsna as an ordinary man, the Gita
 loses all importance. The Mayavadi argues that the plurality mentioned 
in this verse is conventional and that it refers to the body. But 
previous to this verse such a bodily conception is already condemned. 
After condemning the bodily conception of the living entities, how was 
it possible for Krsna to place a conventional proposition on the body 
again? Therefore, individuality is maintained on spiritual grounds and 
is thus confirmed by great acaryas like Sri Ramanuja and others. It is clearly mentioned in many places in the Gita
 that this spiritual individuality is understood by those who are 
devotees of the Lord. Those who are envious of Krsna as the Supreme 
Personality of Godhead have no bona fide access to the great literature.
 The nondevotee's approach to the teachings of the Gita is 
something like bees licking on a bottle of honey. One cannot have a 
taste of honey unless one opens the bottle. Similarly, the mysticism of 
the Bhagavad-gita can be understood only by devotees, and no one 
else can taste it, as it is stated in the Fourth Chapter of the book. 
Nor can the Gita be touched by persons who envy the very existence of the Lord. Therefore, the Mayavadi explanation of the Gita
 is a most misleading presentation of the whole truth. Lord Caitanya has
 forbidden us to read commentations made by the Mayavadis and warns that
 one who takes to such an understanding of the Mayavadi philosophy loses
 all power to understand the real mystery of the Gita. If 
individuality refers to the empirical universe, then there is no need of
 teaching by the Lord. The plurality of the individual soul and of the 
Lord is an eternal fact, and it is confirmed by the Vedas as above mentioned.
The Mayavadi theory that after liberation the individual soul, separated by the covering of maya
 or illusion, will merge into the impersonal Brahman and lose its 
individual existence is not supported herein by Lord Krsna, the supreme 
authority. Nor is the theory that we only think of individuality in the 
conditioned state supported herein. Krsna clearly says herein that in 
the future also the individuality of the Lord and others, as it is 
confirmed in the Upanisads, will continue eternally. This 
statement of Krsna is authoritative because Krsna cannot be subject to 
illusion. If individuality is not a fact, then Krsna would not have 
stressed it so much--even for the future. The Mayavadi may argue that 
the individuality spoken of by Krsna is not spiritual, but material. 
Even accepting the argument that the individuality is material, then how
 can one distinguish Krsna's individuality? Krsna affirms His 
individuality in the past and confirms His individuality in the future 
also. He has confirmed His individuality in many ways, and impersonal 
Brahman has been declared to be subordinate to Him. Krsna has maintained
 spiritual individuality all along; if He is accepted as an ordinary 
conditioned soul in individual consciousness, then His Bhagavad-gita
 has no value as authoritative scripture. A common man with all the four
 defects of human frailty is unable to teach that which is worth 
hearing. The Gita is above such literature. No mundane book compares with the Bhagavad-gita. When one accepts Krsna as an ordinary man, the Gita
 loses all importance. The Mayavadi argues that the plurality mentioned 
in this verse is conventional and that it refers to the body. But 
previous to this verse such a bodily conception is already condemned. 
After condemning the bodily conception of the living entities, how was 
it possible for Krsna to place a conventional proposition on the body 
again? Therefore, individuality is maintained on spiritual grounds and 
is thus confirmed by great acaryas like Sri Ramanuja and others. It is clearly mentioned in many places in the Gita
 that this spiritual individuality is understood by those who are 
devotees of the Lord. Those who are envious of Krsna as the Supreme 
Personality of Godhead have no bona fide access to the great literature.
 The nondevotee's approach to the teachings of the Gita is 
something like bees licking on a bottle of honey. One cannot have a 
taste of honey unless one opens the bottle. Similarly, the mysticism of 
the Bhagavad-gita can be understood only by devotees, and no one 
else can taste it, as it is stated in the Fourth Chapter of the book. 
Nor can the Gita be touched by persons who envy the very existence of the Lord. Therefore, the Mayavadi explanation of the Gita
 is a most misleading presentation of the whole truth. Lord Caitanya has
 forbidden us to read commentations made by the Mayavadis and warns that
 one who takes to such an understanding of the Mayavadi philosophy loses
 all power to understand the real mystery of the Gita. If 
individuality refers to the empirical universe, then there is no need of
 teaching by the Lord. The plurality of the individual soul and of the 
Lord is an eternal fact, and it is confirmed by the Vedas as above mentioned.
 
 
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